OFFICIAL MAP 2019 - SOAP (Suggestions, Opinions, Applications, and Polls)

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Re: OFFICIAL MAP 2019 - SOAP (Suggestions, Opinions, Applications, and Polls)

Post by Zamastan » Sun Dec 01, 2019 7:25 am

Gardavasque wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:24 am
Relaying the following message on behalf of Osirisa:
I was trying to lodge a post on the applications thread for the map and I was denied, when I reloaded the page, the "
post reply" option was gone. I was wondering what could be done to fix the issue. The map looks great by the way!
When I attempted to actually make the post, it was denied. It worked for the Word Association Game thread but unfortunately not for the map thread. As for my application;

Nation: Kingdom of Osirisa

Capital: Whitehall

Placement: https://ibb.co/17ZbB5J with the capital placed at the mouth of the large estuary please.

I realize I drew a bit close to Sunemia there, so please trim back as needed to give them space. I really appreciate your help with this. Again, I'm very impressed with how the map has turned out.

Thank you so much
Accepted! Thanks for submitting that for Osirisa, Gardavasque! I appreciate it. I also contacted Osirisa via TG to let them know that Discord would be an effective way to get in contact with us. Hopefully the forum situation is figured out there.
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Thank you. That set-up works fine.

(IC, though, the Bears -- for historical reasons -- would prefer that their lands be shown in just about any colour except purple/mauve... :roll: )
Interesting... I'm curious as to why purple is a frowned upon color for the ursines :? I can change the color if you'd prefer?

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Post by Zamastan » Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:06 pm

Map is updated, including new cities for several nations who requested additional ones added.

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Post by Libertas Omnium Maximus » Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:13 am

QUESTION: Is there any way you could include polar land masses? I would be interested to see what shape our Antarctica equivalent may take for the sake of a neat world building idea I've had for some time.

SUGGESTION: Alter the color scheme to be a little more subdued, especially for the purple. The Blue and Orange look great but the purple nations don't look so good. Their black text and red markers blend in instead of standing out. I might suggest a pale red as a replacement color.

REQUEST: Can you add my puppet to the map?
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Post by Zamastan » Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:08 pm

Libertas Omnium Maximus wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:13 am
QUESTION: Is there any way you could include polar land masses? I would be interested to see what shape our Antarctica equivalent may take for the sake of a neat world building idea I've had for some time.

SUGGESTION: Alter the color scheme to be a little more subdued, especially for the purple. The Blue and Orange look great but the purple nations don't look so good. Their black text and red markers blend in instead of standing out. I might suggest a pale red as a replacement color.

REQUEST: Can you add my puppet to the map?
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To the question: I tried adding polar masses, but they unfortunately make the map look very distorted because of how large they would have to be to surround a pole. I.E.: Antarctica looks huge on world maps but is only about the size of Australia. If more people request this in the future I may try to implement it again, but for now, we can just assume there is sea-ice around the poles

To the suggestion: I've also thought about that. I think I will change purple to a salmon or something pinkish - thanks for the suggestion.

To the request: yes, I'll add that soon. Capital city?

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Post by Libertas Omnium Maximus » Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:41 pm

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To the request: yes, I'll add that soon. Capital city?
Capital City is Brunelli, that should be located on the inner part of the biggest island (facing the smaller islands). Sancaro is another city located in the center of the east island. Thanks!

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Post by Bears Armed » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:10 pm

Zamastan wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 7:25 am
Bears Armed wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:39 pm
Thank you. That set-up works fine.
(IC, though, the Bears -- for historical reasons -- would prefer that their lands be shown in just about any colour except purple/mauve... :roll: )
Interesting... I'm curious as to why purple is a frowned upon color for the ursines :? I can change the color if you'd prefer?
Thank you.

It's a long story (some bits of which have appeared scattered through my RP), but in the early days of the Bears' history there was a 'Purple Clan' that tried to absorb them all into an empire (commonly called 'the Purple Empire', nowadays) under its control... and whose rulers turned out to be reincarnations of some of the wizards [& their allies] who'd previously ruled a human culture in this area before self-destructing not only that civilisation but the entire human population of the continent's central areas (which then remained "sealed" against human access from the end of that war -- which was at some point during the 1st century AD -- until just before the Bears revealed their own existence to the outside world in 2006 [when, OOC, this nation was "created"...]).
The 'Heroic Age' remembered in traditional stories mostly involved conflicts between free bears and that empire, for example 'the Tale of Bearren and Lursienne': viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1715&p=16133&hilit=Bearren#p16133 .
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Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:08 pm
Libertas Omnium Maximus wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:13 am
QUESTION: Is there any way you could include polar land masses? I would be interested to see what shape our Antarctica equivalent may take for the sake of a neat world building idea I've had for some time.
To the question: I tried adding polar masses, but they unfortunately make the map look very distorted because of how large they would have to be to surround a pole. I.E.: Antarctica looks huge on world maps but is only about the size of Australia.
That's probably for the best, overall, anyway. As I explained in my 'Regional climates & Ecosystems: SUGGESTED Overview' thread (viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2100) in the Regional Ecosystems sub-forum, not having either land-masses or seas as "enclosed" as the RL Arctic Ocean at the poles means that this world should be generally more 'temperate' than RL Earth, which not only gives us more "habitable" land (rather than deserts & tundra) but also makes it a lot easier to justify having the ecosystems as a mixture of RL and endemic types -- as various players had already chosen, in some cases even before I got involved with the region -- rather than having an all-RL set or an all-endemic set...

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Post by Zamastan » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:39 pm

Bears Armed wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:10 pm
Zamastan wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 7:25 am
Interesting... I'm curious as to why purple is a frowned upon color for the ursines :? I can change the color if you'd prefer?
Thank you.

It's a long story (some bits of which have appeared scattered through my RP), but in the early days of the Bears' history there was a 'Purple Clan' that tried to absorb them all into an empire (commonly called 'the Purple Empire', nowadays) under its control... and whose rulers turned out to be reincarnations of some of the wizards [& their allies] who'd previously ruled a human culture in this area before self-destructing not only that civilisation but the entire human population of the continent's central areas (which then remained "sealed" against human access from the end of that war -- which was at some point during the 1st century AD -- until just before the Bears revealed their own existence to the outside world in 2006 [when, O


I changed the color of Bears Armed to a salmon pink :) Hopefully that pleases the overall populace.

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Post by Zamastan » Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:25 am

As a heads up in case people are curious - I'm considering creating an additional nation that will operate as my puppet nation. I have no puppet nations in existence, so this will be a new endeavor for me. The nation will likely be a small Monte Carlo-like casino haven bordering Zamastan - it will be a great place for role-playing opportunities.

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Post by Laeral » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:58 pm

Zamastan wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:25 am
As a heads up in case people are curious - I'm considering creating an additional nation that will operate as my puppet nation. I have no puppet nations in existence, so this will be a new endeavor for me. The nation will likely be a small Monte Carlo-like casino haven bordering Zamastan - it will be a great place for role-playing opportunities.
I've had a similar casino-tax haven concept for my puppet of Serriel, but I haven't quite been able to flesh that out yet. I'm still hoping to show that side of the nation at some point during the Aurora RP, though.

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Post by Bears Armed » Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:29 pm

Are that patterns of lines shown as meandering across the continents supposed to represent rivers (which, looking at the lines’ patterns, would effectively make them salt-water channels that split each continent into a cluster of islands where fairly substantial areas — lying along those lines — would have to be verrry close to sea level…) or potential borders, or what? In the area that you’ve assigned to the Bears I’m treating some parts of them as rivers but ignoring the rest…

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Maybe the region’s ‘Founder’, ‘The Free Land of The IDU' should be given a place on this map even if it still retains its traditional place on the old one as well? If so, then I would suggest a relatively small area somewhere south-west or south-south west of the large lake (or inland sea) that lies just south of the Bears & a bit further east of Lauchenoiria, maybe with short stretches of coast on both that lake and the sea to its south-east: It could centre on the valley of a river that runs between those two bodies of water, with its capital (called ‘Democracity’, as in the earlier version, or maybe ‘New Democracity’ instead?) in a riverside location…

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Could my own puppet of Philosophical Pandas possibly be given an area in the angle between Bears Armed, High Fells, and Laeral? If so, then I won’t ask you to mark its capital’s location yet as that’s something about which I still need to think.

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Post by Zamastan » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:36 pm

Bears Armed wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:29 pm
Are that patterns of lines shown as meandering across the continents supposed to represent rivers (which, looking at the lines’ patterns, would effectively make them salt-water channels that split each continent into a cluster of islands where fairly substantial areas — lying along those lines — would have to be verrry close to sea level…) or potential borders, or what? In the area that you’ve assigned to the Bears I’m treating some parts of them as rivers but ignoring the rest…

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Maybe the region’s ‘Founder’, ‘The Free Land of The IDU' should be given a place on this map even if it still retains its traditional place on the old one as well? If so, then I would suggest a relatively small area somewhere south-west or south-south west of the large lake (or inland sea) that lies just south of the Bears & a bit further east of Lauchenoiria, maybe with short stretches of coast on both that lake and the sea to its south-east: It could centre on the valley of a river that runs between those two bodies of water, with its capital (called ‘Democracity’, as in the earlier version, or maybe ‘New Democracity’ instead?) in a riverside location…

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Could my own puppet of Philosophical Pandas possibly be given an area in the angle between Bears Armed, High Fells, and Laeral? If so, then I won’t ask you to mark its capital’s location yet as that’s something about which I still need to think.

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1. Yes, the blue lines are rivers, but they aren't necessarily there permanently. It depends on where nations are placed. I had the intention of having those rivers originate from mountain ranges, which would indicate fresh water, but if the designs don't make sense for fresh water rivers, I'd be happy to change it up. Other lines marked along national borders could be mountain or forested areas, but that will be up to the nations inheriting those areas.

2. I can definitely put the Free Land of the IDU down somewhere, though I think I might wait a while to place it - we've been receiving a lot of applications from telegrams and discord, though I'm trying to direct them to the forum instead.

3. Philosophical Pandas - what a cool name. I'll place that one down in the next map update!

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Post by Shen » Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:56 am

The 12 tribes of monogin

Capitol: ikh torolt located in the geographic center of the country.

Population 3.4 million

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the Harsh, and flat land of Monagon, filled with cold winds, crime, violence, and poverty.

a place famouse for its hardy people, strong clan ties, and its black market

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Post by Zamastan » Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:16 am

Map is updated!

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Post by Zamastan » Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:26 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:29 pm
Maybe the region’s ‘Founder’, ‘The Free Land of The IDU' should be given a place on this map even if it still retains its traditional place on the old one as well? If so, then I would suggest a relatively small area somewhere south-west or south-south west of the large lake (or inland sea) that lies just south of the Bears & a bit further east of Lauchenoiria, maybe with short stretches of coast on both that lake and the sea to its south-east: It could centre on the valley of a river that runs between those two bodies of water, with its capital (called ‘Democracity’, as in the earlier version, or maybe ‘New Democracity’ instead?) in a riverside location…
I actually retracted my original answer - I went ahead and put it on the map, but I was a little confused by your request (maybe I was just tired, I'm very impressed by how precise all of your descriptions and requests always are and I may have over-thought :lol: ). If you had something else in mind for its position, let me know! There's a likely chance that I misplaced it.

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Post by Xiomera » Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:33 am

Request for a map location

Nation: Milintica
Capital: Huānoch
Location: The two small islands south of Catica and east of Osirisa (please see https://imgur.com/a/fMsg2HA)

(Note: this is a puppet of Xiomera)

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Post by Zamastan » Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:45 am

Xiomera wrote:
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Request for a map location

Nation: Milintica
Capital: Huānoch
Location: The two small islands south of Catica and east of Osirisa (please see https://imgur.com/a/fMsg2HA)

(Note: this is a puppet of Xiomera)
Accepted! Looks like a good addition to the map! Is it still Mesoamerican themed? I know it's different than Xiomera ("...neither fancy nor wealthy by any means. Also, unlike Xiomera, (it's) a democratic state with moderately socialist leanings."), but does it retain a similar culture?

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Post by Xiomera » Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:50 am

Zamastan wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:45 am
Xiomera wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:33 am
Request for a map location

Nation: Milintica
Capital: Huānoch
Location: The two small islands south of Catica and east of Osirisa (please see https://imgur.com/a/fMsg2HA)

(Note: this is a puppet of Xiomera)
Accepted! Looks like a good addition to the map! Is it still Mesoamerican themed? I know it's different than Xiomera ("...neither fancy nor wealthy by any means. Also, unlike Xiomera, (it's) a democratic state with moderately socialist leanings."), but does it retain a similar culture?
It does. Milintica was founded by refugees from when the Xiomeran Empire was founded, so it has the same culture and ethnic groups as Xiomera. There may be possibly some culture mixed in from whoever the native inhabitants of those islands were, once I figure out the full backstory. The main difference between Xiomera and Milintica is that Milintica is a democracy and that the Milinticans despise the Empire.

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Post by Zamastan » Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:44 pm

Xiomera wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:50 am
It does. Milintica was founded by refugees from when the Xiomeran Empire was founded, so it has the same culture and ethnic groups as Xiomera. There may be possibly some culture mixed in from whoever the native inhabitants of those islands were, once I figure out the full backstory. The main difference between Xiomera and Milintica is that Milintica is a democracy and that the Milinticans despise the Empire.
Interesting! I look forward to seeing how that is implemented into the wider RP.

Map is updated.

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Post by Bears Armed » Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:26 pm

To Zamastan

Thank you for giving the Pandas their place.

Re the position of ‘The Free Land: Don’t worry, you did place it in accordance with what I had suggested. Any confusion involved was my fault, because I accidentally typed “the sea to its south-east” when what I really meant to say was “the sea to its south-west”: What I actually had in mind was basically the western half of the area that you have assigned, with the river between the lake & the sea more-or-less as you’ve shown it, so the current situation is fine…

Re the rivers.
The problem (as I saw it) was mainly that you showed so many of them as linking the lakes or inland seas to the oceans in various ways, and linking to each other as well, that unless the water was flowing uphill in some places most of those lakes and many of the rivers would have had to be completely at sea-level. If you are okay with us cutting out some sections of those lines, and adding hills or mountains in suitable places for the shortened rivers’ sources, then that’s fine. (The sizes of some of the deltas shown also suggest wider expanses of land close to sea-level than some nations’ players might prefer, but that’s easy enough for people to fix as & when wanted as well…)
Also, the extent to which the main river shown in the south-eastern part of the Bears’ lands bends back & forth suggests either (1) a verrry wide & flat floodplain or (2) that it has had to cut a winding series of gorges through an extensive area of uplands: I’m going to think further about that situation, & will make any “necessary” alterations to fit my conclusions myself…

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Post by The Federation of Legionas » Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:25 pm

Hey there!

I'd like to claim an area on the map for my puppet

Nation: Zerphique
Capital: New Horadam
Placement: The area between Iustos and Vulkaria

Thanks.
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Post by Zamastan » Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:10 pm

Map is updated!

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